I f you like Raw hardcore punk rock like mc5's or Iggy Pop or the Stooges you will dig Grinder this cd is very good . The band is made up of Bill Reed on guitar ERIC Miller on drums The late James B Anders on bass and former Detroit Red Wing Darren McCarty on vocals now with the Calagry Flames. Check out the title track OUt of Our Heads , as well as Sham and Affliction has some great guitar riffs on it my favorite track is the last track Nothing left opens with some great drumming just crank it up to 11 like Spinal Tap would and sit back and enjoy this cd. it may take a few listens but it grows on you . Tony Gaje